SUCCESS STORIES FROM AROUND THE GLOBE

 

  1. BulletTim Brannon (tbran)

  2. We have created a monster(s). As of right now my R50 with 16' 300 series head is cutting 65 bushels wheat at the flag leaf (12-14" below the head) at up to 8.5 mph/650 bu per hour, 14 acres per hour with less than .25bu/acre loss!!! One must learn to drive this upgraded machine differently. I have a boost gauge and if the pacer indicates loss (position 1 set 10 on cylinder - no shoe loss no shoe load) look at the boost, if below 15#, speed up, if above 15#, back off a little. Also - to control the cylinder loss I leveled the grate (dumb me) and closed 2 marks up toward minimum and running at 1/8"[cylinder gap] at 900 rpm [cylinder speed]. Two concave filler strips. Low wire grate with every other wire out of all grates. Have to slow to 825 rpm mid afternoon. NOW HERE IS THE KICKER THAT WORKED FOR ME. I tried to further limit loss by installing a F2 channel bar in the bottom of the separator grate...ate me up in hp but stopped loss. I went back to the parts bins and an old RASP BAR CONCAVE jumped out and almost bit me - part #71142277. I bolted a couple in the bottom left-hand side and next one to the right of it, and cut my loss and noticed almost no hp requirement. This thin but vaned bar evidently will shake/shread the straw enough to let the grain out but not enough to stop the flow. Beautiful, smooth, no whomp-moan just smooooth. Ran up till 8pm last night and only noticed the needle up to edge of red...super, super, super, ...thanks, guys, for all your help... Oh 62's - no problem - they have enough separator area and are more forgiving. (I bet those rasp bar concaves will work great in corn -shuck shreaders without cob break up)

  1. BulletRolf Hedt (Australia)

  2. G'Day to all you R series Gleaner Fan's,

  3. My name is Rolf Hedt We have had two L's a N7 and in 94 got a R62. We've all way's had a bit of a problem with tuff/green crop's with the Gleaner Rotary's and cracking of pulse crops which is a complete no no over here!!! so one day I was just doing the usual thing and decided to search for info on headers (Combines) and came across Marvin Gorden’s site (I had worked with Marvin, harvesting in the US) as it was still in it's early day' s there was not that much to go on apart from a couple of guy's talking about Green Soybean, which really made me sit up and investigate as to what they were doing. When I started to read some of the things and go and look at my machine, I could see what they were talking about and decided to have a go at it my self, BUT convincing my father was not going to be easy as I first thought!!! So for the first season (98/99) the only thing that we did was to put eight extended bars in the separator end and the separator cover kit to see how it would go. 98/99 was not a very good year for us as we had 30 month's of the record dry, and then got a 1 in 100 year frost in late October (Everything coming out in Flower!!!) temperature got down to -7 degrees Celsius for over 5 hours. Anyway we still had to try and get something, so we started in our wheat first and linseed, canary seed and barley as well as Chickpeas. Still plenty of bulk but not much seed, rotor losses were quite high percentage but as there was not much crop there in the first place we didn't worry about it to much and got finished before new year. Setting up for the 99/2000 season was going to be much more involved as the Gleaner site was getting quite busy with people asking questions and giving answers, lot's of them very helpful. This time the ideas from the Header site that I wanted to incorporate in to our header were not resisted by my father at all, basically he said that I could do what I liked as long that it worked!!!! (Nothing like pressure! ! ) Anyway pulling the rotor was getting pretty easy now so with in 30 min.'s the rotor was out on the floor, with in four hours I had all the reverses off and all balanced forward bars were put back on. I did have four low profile forward bars made up before hand so they were put on in two rows on the sep end of the rotor, next thing to do was to examined the paddles that we had modified from the previous year. and we found that they were not letting the extended rasp bars move material right across the full length of the extended bars so we chopped some more of the paddles so as to get more material across the discharge outlet. \par Next was to try Dan's Hurtt's helical extension across the feeder house opening (the principle really does stand out when you are li ning down in the cage and looking at it!!) Dad being the resident engineer in the family went a head and made up the helical extension from a second hand piece we had Acquired!!!, we also installed the three helical that Hyper harvest had suggested with s o me more acquired helical's!!!! Last but not least I was very worried about how much loss I would get out the rotor with all this hyper flow through the processor (From constipation to diarear!!) But, out came Tim Brandon with the simple solution of the F2 rasp bars in the bottom of the belly. Not having any F2 bars a round and hearing some N6 guy's using standard Massey bars instead, I go one of our old N7 reverses bars chopped the leading \par edge off so as to be flat and bolted it in to the bottom front of the separator section. Checked \par everything out to make sure it was tight and got some help from a neighbor who has a R52 and was doing most of the mod's that I was doing, with installing the rotor. (he wanted to know how we got the rotor in!!!) On to the P3 B version, this is what we have done to the Processor this time. Removed all the corn striper's, installed Hump kit, 1/2 inch forward rasps on thresher end of rotor, 3/4 inch forward rasps on separator end with two rows low profile, third helical from gear box installed (you don't blow the concave door with that installed!!) three helicals on discharge end , cut down N7 reverser bar bolted in bottom front, on top of separator grate cover kit. This whole system works so very smooth and we have had a lot lower rotor rev's, because of them the losses are down around the 5-10 kg's a hectare (11-22 lb's acre) which I don't think will change much with a higher yielding crop as we still had lot's of crop material going through the machine. I would like to thank all the Guy's (including Tim's M.I.L.!!!) for all the great ideas and making me \par see the light on how you can get your very expensive machine to really perform, and that's not just with capacity as we have been told the we have the best sample lentils the spliters have seen for three years!!! as well the silo testing stand said that we had one of the best wheat samples they have seen as well. Thanks (Hyper Harvest I and II, Dan and Tom Hurtt, Tim Brandon) and some of you others that have really helped.

  4. Rolf Hedt

  5. South Eastern Australia.

  1. BulletKirk Welton (kbwelton@adiis.net)
    Running a fully Hypered '85 N5, 320 flex head, 6-30 Hugger with speed-up kit: 

  2. I thought I would give a update on this machine since buying it last year.

  3. Last year did all hyperizing except the grate. We could run 4 to 5 mph in 50 bu soybeans no problem with very little loss. Could run full out in 2nd (5.5 to 5.8) in 180 bushel corn, however we were putting 2 bushel straight through the rotor. Hyper II had us try several things but could not cut loss.

  4. This year we installed the grate and channel helicals also sent the pump to Lee's (Midwest Diesel Injection Service) for a rebuild and 10% tweak. We are running 4 to 5 mph in 55 to 60 bushel soybeans and after some tweaks to the 320 head (Crary Gold-N-Cut, Johnson Rock Gaurd, loosened springs under head) it is leaving the field cut so close that even Victor Kiam would be proud. We are leaving very little in the field. In corn we have only run a few acres, but in 190 to 210 bushel corn at 25 to 27% moisture we could run 5 to 5.5 mph with soggy field conditions, power being our only limiting factor. (Need that Cummins) However this year we are putting less than 1 bushel across the entire width of the machine and probably 1/4 was from head shelling due to tough conditions.

  5. To sum it up this machine is a corn and bean pig and would give any class 5 machine a run for its money. I only wish we could have run this machine for 1 year with the stock set-up to see what a difference it made.

  1. BulletNathan Klopfenstein (nathank@ziggycom.net)

  2. We started with a 81 N5 with 3000+ engine hours, we replaced the cage with Lowen P3 replacement cage (1" x 1 1/4 squares) with no sep grate and no blank over feed chain. Installed Lowens 13 bar concave with first 6 rows blocked with Lowens filler strips (that is how it came to us). We installed steep pitch helicals all the way thru to discharge. Installed a P3 cylinder, Had to go to machine shop to make a spacer 1" I think) to center cylinder in cage because it was the old style gearbox that the seal sealed to rotor coupler. Used 3/4 spaced cylinder bars on first 2 rows and cut out remaining 2 rows to 1". Removed four paddles and installed cyl bars all the way to end. Installed new style rock door with frame around it to stop grain loss around door and to eliminate the need to adjust latch every time you adjusted the concave clearance. The first year He run his old 16 foot head and 6rn corn head and could not drive fast enough to load machine ( NO LOSS). This year no change in corn but changed throat to new style header hook up and bought a 24' series 3 header from us. He said he had a little rotor loss on wheat but in 45 bu average beans was running 4.5 mph, boost gauge setting on 180 and when he hit a tough spot gauge would go to 220 and back down immediately and didn't have to slow down. This is an awesome machine!!!! Who would have thought this was possible out of an N5!!!!